Angie's Interesting Thoughts of 9/11 Movement
Common too is the pointing, by people who should know better that the evidence demonstrates 9-11 was an inside job, at countries other than the u.s. as being the true culprits, creating motivations for the u.s. to attack other countries. Think Michael Moore and the Saudis; or Pakistan and Paul Thompson, whose timeline based solely on mainstream corporate news reporting (you know, what we've all learned to trust so much :-) has just been released in book form. "Paul says either the US government was directly involved with Pakistan and other countries in the 9-11 plot and allowed it to happen or helped it to happen, or the US government was taken for fools and afterwards covered up their foolishness" http://www.snowshoefilms.com/911coverup.html. Here's to hoping that ridiculous conclusion isn't published in the Thompson Timeline book, which I've just purchased but haven't yet read.
A quick aside - I note with distress that the forward to Thompson's celebrated 590 page book was written by Peter Lance who is also making the rounds at 9-11 truth movement events himself, pushing his own new Terror Cover Up book. Here's an excerpt from an interview with Lance promoting his own new book: "Lance doesn't subscribe to the notion that U.S. authorities intentionally allowed the 9/11 attack to occur in order to justify the Bush administration's new, aggressively unilateral approach to world affairs, explaining, "I'm not some conspiracy guy, I'm a hard-bitten journalist." Instead, he attributes the cover-up to the oldest motivation in the book - covering one's ass . . . [over] screw ups". http://www.independent.com/news/news928.htm And sad to say, here is Paul Thompson in his book's introduction, speaking not of governmental complicity or of an inside-job, but of failures: "Who in our government failed in their constitutional duty to 'protect and defend' us from these attacks? And how can we ensure that such failures will not occur again? We must find answers to these questions. The United States will remain vulnerable - we are not safe and we will not be safe - until we can answer these questions, until we can call to account those who have failed us, and until we repair institutional dysfunctions that contributed to this failure." Simply outrageous!!
There's also been another possible motive for the 9-11 attacks that I've speculated about since the beginning. Have you ever wondered why the 9-11 official story was so implausible and so sloppily put together? (you know, the simultaneous hijacking of four different planes by people armed with mere boxcutters, the suicide notes found in luggage that inadvertently didn't make it on the planes, Arabic flight manuals left in cars in the airport, and a million other things they did which seem like obvious plants, or things they didn't do or create which would have squelched many of the 9-11 skeptics early on.) It's as if they want us to see through the whole thing. Could the perpetrators, in fact, want a 911 Truth Movement to flourish? And if so, why?
Perhaps the perpetrators are deliberately setting up the U.S. to be the bad guy to the rest of the world, perhaps to give the rest of the world the notion that they'd have to consolidate to fight the sole superpower, getting us that much closer to a one world government that so many global elite long for. Perhaps the 'transparent 9-11 inside job/ mass murder deliberately painted on others for a non-ending war pretext' is just a part of that, part of the intentional plotting to have the U.S. be seen as the real rogue nation that others must get together to fight against.
Everywhere you look, it seems, the U.S. goes out of its way, against its interests, to put itself in the worst possible light. The U.S. could easily have, for example, planted weapons of mass destruction in Iraq to make itself look better, but it didn't. And the U.S. could perform identical horrible actions around the world without the seemingly intentionally abrasive and arrogant foreign policy pronouncements which alienate our allies' populations. And why has the U.S. media and even governmental officials taking a liking recently to reporting on war prisoner abuse when they've never paid such close attention to it so close in time to it before? It's hard to believe that the sloppiness of 9-11, and these other items, are just due to the incompetence of those in charge, and so I speculate.
Thus, while it is only prudent to always ask, in any movement, where the money is coming from and what are the agendas of the prominent people in it, it is also for this additional reason that I am particularly curious about those who seek to expose 9-11, in case that was part of the plan all along . . . So, each time I come across one of the 911 Truth Movement funders or movers & shakers whose raison d'etra outside of 9-11 happens to be the advocacy of a one world government, Malthusian crap, or other weird and scary stuff, it makes me stand up and take notice because it's occurred to me to ask - what if a bottom line motive for the attacks was the very EXPOSURE of the inside-job nature of the attacks so as to justify the need for the weird and scary stuff? In other words, in the problem-reaction-solution paradigm, (where problems are intentionally created by those who seek to implement a ready made goal & their goal appears to be a natural solution to the problem they in fact created) perhaps the created problem isn't the attacks themselves, but the exposure of the attacks for what they are. To ensure that our 911 truth exposure efforts aren't actually giving the enemy what they want, we've got to closely examine what's going on.
In the 911 Truth Movement Movers & Shakers department, we've got Mike Ruppert, who will soon be releasing a new book which he says will demonstrate gov't official complicity in the 911 attacks. It's entitled "CROSSING THE RUBICON: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil", "a detective story that gets to the innermost core of the 9/11 attacks. It places 9/11 at the center of a desperate new America, created by specific, named individuals in preparation for Peak Oil: an economic crisis like nothing the world has ever seen". Ruppert appears to be a volunteer mouthpiece for the oil industry/gov't, who seeks to - through 911 truth exposure - spread the peak oil scam as well as make people believe there are no viable alternative energies worth pursuing. (See Brian Salter's post at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/19884 as well as a couple of links at http://mysite.verizon.net/vze25x9n/id16.html.)
As Mike Ruppert has previously written: "[t]he truth is that the real story - the only story -- is Peak Oil and Gas, and that 9/11 was its first visible manifestation. I fight to expose Peak Oil in part by exposing 9/11 in a way that registers in the public consciousness. That is my obligation to my readers and - as I see it - to my fellow man." www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/112603kennedy.html
And for creepiness, get this, Ruppert also wants to inform us that because of "peak oil", "population reduction" is a necessity, the only question we have to decide, he told us all at the 911 Inquiry in San Francisco, is whether we want to do it "nice or nasty". When I asked him at the organized Q&A session afterwards, how does one do "population reduction" nice, I expected the same answer he had written about earlier: about how he advocated "the immediate convening of political/economic/spiritual/& scientific leaders from all nations . . . [to come up with] immediate steps to arrive at a crash program . . . to arrive at the best possible and most ethical program of population reduction" (http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr54.html). But he cleaned that up a little by San Franciso (after critics pointed out what they thought of the nations' political and economic leaders), and this time, Ruppert indicated that he 'didn't have any plan except that everyone in the world has to decide together'. Now, he's on his book promotion tour, making speeches in which he quotes approvingly from past elite funded, sick and racist eugenics supporters like Charles Galton Darwin, whom Ruppert refers to as "distinguished". http://www.fromthewilderness.com/PDF/Commonwealth.pdf
Another mover and shaker, David Ray Griffin, is the author of the book, The New Pearl Harbor, beloved by many in the 911 Truth Movement as providing a definitive 911 skeptics account, even discussing various physical evidence claims pointing to 9-11 being an inside job. Writing his book's forward is Richard Falk. They're often a team, David Ray and Richard, both one world government aficionados (and I don't know about you, but I do admit to finding one world gov't advocates creepy) who work on the same projects and write for the same publications advocating a world government solution. Richard Falk, in fact, is a member of the CFR, the Council on Foreign Relations. He's worked on new world order projects for the CFR, like the World Order Models Project financed by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and the Rockefeller Foundation. What the hell is one to make of a CFR member wanting to expose 9-11? Another frequent writing/project partner of Griffin is John Cobb, former senior economist for the World Bank. Griffin and Cobb founded the Center for Process Studies which received support from the Rockefeller Foundation. Griffin and Cobb have also co-authored some materials with Club of Rome member Herman Daly. Griffin, himself, referred to as the "well known theologian", has some unusual ideas about how humanity should think about God and apparently wants us to revert to some type of mysticism on our path to the new world order. Here's an interview of him talking about it: http://www.context.org/ICLIB/IC24/Griffin.htm
Continuing in the movers & shakers vein, we've got Kyle Hence's partner, Byron Belitsos, the co-founder and Board Member of 911truth.org. Actually, we're moving into the 911 Truth Movement funders category because Byron is also a publisher. He edited and published Jim Marrs' 911 Inside Job book. (And in a Time-Warner-ish aside, Bryon writes in Marrs' book without indicating he's in any way himself connected with the organization, let alone one of its two founders: "P.S. A special note to researchers: Be sure to visit 911Truth.org, the portal site of the leading researchers, writers, publishers, activists, webmasters, and leaders in the 9/11 truth movement.") Besides being a self-proclaimed leader of the 911 Truth Movement, Byron is another one of these one world government people and is, in fact, releasing next month a book he co-wrote urging a world government, which he indicates in his preface to Jim Marrs' 9-11 book is meant to really supplement Marrs' 9-11 book: "I also felt directed to publish a second book, which is an Origin Press companion to Inside Job. This book is entitled One Planet: A Progressive Vision of Enforceable Global Law. I saw in an instant that these two books go together, one stating the problem in stark terms, and the other offering a visionary but achievable solution to the war system--the abolition of war altogether." Here's more from Byron, who also promotes an 'alternative bible' called The Urantia Book: "In times of great crisis, opposites often arise together in pristine purity. Unleash a great evil in one place, and its nemesis arises somewhere else. Knock a dying paradigm off the world stage, and a new one kicks up out of the blue. (PNAC-ish, right?) . . . The Bush administration, representing the last gasp of imperialist unilateralism in an interdependent world, is perversely teaching us one such isolated truth: that firm enforcement of international law is needed in a dangerous world." http://www.romancingtheuniverse.net/worldpeace.htm
Byron has also published the book of another one world government promoter making the rounds in various 9-11 Truth Movement programs, Jim Garrison, president of the State of the World Forum. The book is entitled "America as Empire: Global Leader or Rogue Power?"
Let's turn to more 911 Truth Movement funders and examine whether they have agendas beyond the mere exposure of 9-11. Who funds various 911 Truth Movement organizations and projects, and why? It's actually not so easy to get details on this. Nicholas Levis, of NY(NewYork)911Truth and one of the regional directors of the national 911truth.org who also works on its website has noted, for example, that: "Donors have a right to remain anonymous. I will tell you that 911Truth.org does not accept any money with conditions attached, except that of course all money is supposed to be spent in keeping with the group's published mission statement." (For an aside on that group's mission statement, see http://mysite.verizon.net/vze25x9n/id7.html). Lori Price, moderator of the 911 Truth Alliance internet riseup newsgroup, (in which I used to participate until she kicked me off), also of CLG, Citizens for a Legitimate Government, believes movement funding is not a question to be addressed publicly: post by Angie
A quick aside - I note with distress that the forward to Thompson's celebrated 590 page book was written by Peter Lance who is also making the rounds at 9-11 truth movement events himself, pushing his own new Terror Cover Up book. Here's an excerpt from an interview with Lance promoting his own new book: "Lance doesn't subscribe to the notion that U.S. authorities intentionally allowed the 9/11 attack to occur in order to justify the Bush administration's new, aggressively unilateral approach to world affairs, explaining, "I'm not some conspiracy guy, I'm a hard-bitten journalist." Instead, he attributes the cover-up to the oldest motivation in the book - covering one's ass . . . [over] screw ups". http://www.independent.com/news/news928.htm And sad to say, here is Paul Thompson in his book's introduction, speaking not of governmental complicity or of an inside-job, but of failures: "Who in our government failed in their constitutional duty to 'protect and defend' us from these attacks? And how can we ensure that such failures will not occur again? We must find answers to these questions. The United States will remain vulnerable - we are not safe and we will not be safe - until we can answer these questions, until we can call to account those who have failed us, and until we repair institutional dysfunctions that contributed to this failure." Simply outrageous!!
There's also been another possible motive for the 9-11 attacks that I've speculated about since the beginning. Have you ever wondered why the 9-11 official story was so implausible and so sloppily put together? (you know, the simultaneous hijacking of four different planes by people armed with mere boxcutters, the suicide notes found in luggage that inadvertently didn't make it on the planes, Arabic flight manuals left in cars in the airport, and a million other things they did which seem like obvious plants, or things they didn't do or create which would have squelched many of the 9-11 skeptics early on.) It's as if they want us to see through the whole thing. Could the perpetrators, in fact, want a 911 Truth Movement to flourish? And if so, why?
Perhaps the perpetrators are deliberately setting up the U.S. to be the bad guy to the rest of the world, perhaps to give the rest of the world the notion that they'd have to consolidate to fight the sole superpower, getting us that much closer to a one world government that so many global elite long for. Perhaps the 'transparent 9-11 inside job/ mass murder deliberately painted on others for a non-ending war pretext' is just a part of that, part of the intentional plotting to have the U.S. be seen as the real rogue nation that others must get together to fight against.
Everywhere you look, it seems, the U.S. goes out of its way, against its interests, to put itself in the worst possible light. The U.S. could easily have, for example, planted weapons of mass destruction in Iraq to make itself look better, but it didn't. And the U.S. could perform identical horrible actions around the world without the seemingly intentionally abrasive and arrogant foreign policy pronouncements which alienate our allies' populations. And why has the U.S. media and even governmental officials taking a liking recently to reporting on war prisoner abuse when they've never paid such close attention to it so close in time to it before? It's hard to believe that the sloppiness of 9-11, and these other items, are just due to the incompetence of those in charge, and so I speculate.
Thus, while it is only prudent to always ask, in any movement, where the money is coming from and what are the agendas of the prominent people in it, it is also for this additional reason that I am particularly curious about those who seek to expose 9-11, in case that was part of the plan all along . . . So, each time I come across one of the 911 Truth Movement funders or movers & shakers whose raison d'etra outside of 9-11 happens to be the advocacy of a one world government, Malthusian crap, or other weird and scary stuff, it makes me stand up and take notice because it's occurred to me to ask - what if a bottom line motive for the attacks was the very EXPOSURE of the inside-job nature of the attacks so as to justify the need for the weird and scary stuff? In other words, in the problem-reaction-solution paradigm, (where problems are intentionally created by those who seek to implement a ready made goal & their goal appears to be a natural solution to the problem they in fact created) perhaps the created problem isn't the attacks themselves, but the exposure of the attacks for what they are. To ensure that our 911 truth exposure efforts aren't actually giving the enemy what they want, we've got to closely examine what's going on.
In the 911 Truth Movement Movers & Shakers department, we've got Mike Ruppert, who will soon be releasing a new book which he says will demonstrate gov't official complicity in the 911 attacks. It's entitled "CROSSING THE RUBICON: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil", "a detective story that gets to the innermost core of the 9/11 attacks. It places 9/11 at the center of a desperate new America, created by specific, named individuals in preparation for Peak Oil: an economic crisis like nothing the world has ever seen". Ruppert appears to be a volunteer mouthpiece for the oil industry/gov't, who seeks to - through 911 truth exposure - spread the peak oil scam as well as make people believe there are no viable alternative energies worth pursuing. (See Brian Salter's post at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/19884 as well as a couple of links at http://mysite.verizon.net/vze25x9n/id16.html.)
As Mike Ruppert has previously written: "[t]he truth is that the real story - the only story -- is Peak Oil and Gas, and that 9/11 was its first visible manifestation. I fight to expose Peak Oil in part by exposing 9/11 in a way that registers in the public consciousness. That is my obligation to my readers and - as I see it - to my fellow man." www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/112603kennedy.html
And for creepiness, get this, Ruppert also wants to inform us that because of "peak oil", "population reduction" is a necessity, the only question we have to decide, he told us all at the 911 Inquiry in San Francisco, is whether we want to do it "nice or nasty". When I asked him at the organized Q&A session afterwards, how does one do "population reduction" nice, I expected the same answer he had written about earlier: about how he advocated "the immediate convening of political/economic/spiritual/& scientific leaders from all nations . . . [to come up with] immediate steps to arrive at a crash program . . . to arrive at the best possible and most ethical program of population reduction" (http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr54.html). But he cleaned that up a little by San Franciso (after critics pointed out what they thought of the nations' political and economic leaders), and this time, Ruppert indicated that he 'didn't have any plan except that everyone in the world has to decide together'. Now, he's on his book promotion tour, making speeches in which he quotes approvingly from past elite funded, sick and racist eugenics supporters like Charles Galton Darwin, whom Ruppert refers to as "distinguished". http://www.fromthewilderness.com/PDF/Commonwealth.pdf
Another mover and shaker, David Ray Griffin, is the author of the book, The New Pearl Harbor, beloved by many in the 911 Truth Movement as providing a definitive 911 skeptics account, even discussing various physical evidence claims pointing to 9-11 being an inside job. Writing his book's forward is Richard Falk. They're often a team, David Ray and Richard, both one world government aficionados (and I don't know about you, but I do admit to finding one world gov't advocates creepy) who work on the same projects and write for the same publications advocating a world government solution. Richard Falk, in fact, is a member of the CFR, the Council on Foreign Relations. He's worked on new world order projects for the CFR, like the World Order Models Project financed by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and the Rockefeller Foundation. What the hell is one to make of a CFR member wanting to expose 9-11? Another frequent writing/project partner of Griffin is John Cobb, former senior economist for the World Bank. Griffin and Cobb founded the Center for Process Studies which received support from the Rockefeller Foundation. Griffin and Cobb have also co-authored some materials with Club of Rome member Herman Daly. Griffin, himself, referred to as the "well known theologian", has some unusual ideas about how humanity should think about God and apparently wants us to revert to some type of mysticism on our path to the new world order. Here's an interview of him talking about it: http://www.context.org/ICLIB/IC24/Griffin.htm
Continuing in the movers & shakers vein, we've got Kyle Hence's partner, Byron Belitsos, the co-founder and Board Member of 911truth.org. Actually, we're moving into the 911 Truth Movement funders category because Byron is also a publisher. He edited and published Jim Marrs' 911 Inside Job book. (And in a Time-Warner-ish aside, Bryon writes in Marrs' book without indicating he's in any way himself connected with the organization, let alone one of its two founders: "P.S. A special note to researchers: Be sure to visit 911Truth.org, the portal site of the leading researchers, writers, publishers, activists, webmasters, and leaders in the 9/11 truth movement.") Besides being a self-proclaimed leader of the 911 Truth Movement, Byron is another one of these one world government people and is, in fact, releasing next month a book he co-wrote urging a world government, which he indicates in his preface to Jim Marrs' 9-11 book is meant to really supplement Marrs' 9-11 book: "I also felt directed to publish a second book, which is an Origin Press companion to Inside Job. This book is entitled One Planet: A Progressive Vision of Enforceable Global Law. I saw in an instant that these two books go together, one stating the problem in stark terms, and the other offering a visionary but achievable solution to the war system--the abolition of war altogether." Here's more from Byron, who also promotes an 'alternative bible' called The Urantia Book: "In times of great crisis, opposites often arise together in pristine purity. Unleash a great evil in one place, and its nemesis arises somewhere else. Knock a dying paradigm off the world stage, and a new one kicks up out of the blue. (PNAC-ish, right?) . . . The Bush administration, representing the last gasp of imperialist unilateralism in an interdependent world, is perversely teaching us one such isolated truth: that firm enforcement of international law is needed in a dangerous world." http://www.romancingtheuniverse.net/worldpeace.htm
Byron has also published the book of another one world government promoter making the rounds in various 9-11 Truth Movement programs, Jim Garrison, president of the State of the World Forum. The book is entitled "America as Empire: Global Leader or Rogue Power?"
Let's turn to more 911 Truth Movement funders and examine whether they have agendas beyond the mere exposure of 9-11. Who funds various 911 Truth Movement organizations and projects, and why? It's actually not so easy to get details on this. Nicholas Levis, of NY(NewYork)911Truth and one of the regional directors of the national 911truth.org who also works on its website has noted, for example, that: "Donors have a right to remain anonymous. I will tell you that 911Truth.org does not accept any money with conditions attached, except that of course all money is supposed to be spent in keeping with the group's published mission statement." (For an aside on that group's mission statement, see http://mysite.verizon.net/vze25x9n/id7.html). Lori Price, moderator of the 911 Truth Alliance internet riseup newsgroup, (in which I used to participate until she kicked me off), also of CLG, Citizens for a Legitimate Government, believes movement funding is not a question to be addressed publicly: post by Angie
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